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hobbs

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Does anyone have any good guides / reading material on the subject that I can read up on?

So far the only method I kind of know is the Amazon method.
 
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Found this while looking around, not written by me. I just didn't want to link to other sites.
Creds@Faustus

There's this thing called "human manipulation" and that's what we do when we SE.
We manipulate people to do what we want them to do.
(We generate fake receipts, photoshop
pictures, send corrupted image files, use the 'supervisor' method etc etc).

The Beginning
Many people fail when they first SE.
They just seem sketchy and aren't well prepared.
Maybe they use names like: HaxorL33t or Skid36284.
Or maybe they have awful grammar like:
"hello, my tutlebeach hepdhones rbroke. Can i hav neww one??"
So avoid that.
I'm sorry to be sexist, but use a girl's name and talk like a girl.
Some pleasant, trustworthy sounding female names are:
Hope
Melody
Jane
Hannah
Lexi
Also, be polite.
Being polite can go a long way.
Whether you're SEing Beats or Amazon, no one wants to
help a customer who's grumpy as fuck.
Go for small companies first.

The Middle
When SEing always have a STANDING POINT.
You have to choose what personality you want.
If you are SEing some health supplements, be a trainer who
is distressed for his clients.
If you are SEing Intel, be a girl (sorry) who doesn't know much about
computers.
Maybe you're SEing drums and you're a mom who's worried that the shattered drum would hurt her newborn toddler...

The End (sort of)
Always be prepared!!
Don't end up searching for a serial when they ask for one.
And never give up!
 

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Seuss said:
Found this while looking around, not written by me. I just didn't want to link to other sites.
Creds@Faustus

There's this thing called "human manipulation" and that's what we do when we SE.
We manipulate people to do what we want them to do.
(We generate fake receipts, photoshop
pictures, send corrupted image files, use the 'supervisor' method etc etc).

The Beginning
Many people fail when they first SE.
They just seem sketchy and aren't well prepared.
Maybe they use names like: HaxorL33t or Skid36284.
Or maybe they have awful grammar like:
"hello, my tutlebeach hepdhones rbroke. Can i hav neww one??"
So avoid that.
I'm sorry to be sexist, but use a girl's name and talk like a girl.
Some pleasant, trustworthy sounding female names are:
Hope
Melody
Jane
Hannah
Lexi
Also, be polite.
Being polite can go a long way.
Whether you're SEing Beats or Amazon, no one wants to
help a customer who's grumpy as fuck.
Go for small companies first.

The Middle
When SEing always have a STANDING POINT.
You have to choose what personality you want.
If you are SEing some health supplements, be a trainer who
is distressed for his clients.
If you are SEing Intel, be a girl (sorry) who doesn't know much about
computers.
Maybe you're SEing drums and you're a mom who's worried that the shattered drum would hurt her newborn toddler...

The End (sort of)
Always be prepared!!
Don't end up searching for a serial when they ask for one.
And never give up!
I think that guide sums it up pretty well. Acting as a girl can get you a lot of things online :D
 

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Hey @HOBBS
When Social Engineering, I generally find it's best to make up my own methods. However, it depends what sort of stuff you are doing.
If you are doing very basic stuff such as; Fast Food, General House-Hold Items, etc... Then there is pretty much 1 method that always works.

Method:
1. Do research on the product you are doing. Look for common faults online it usually has.
2. Email/Phone the company and complain that the fault happened to you.
3. Most of the time they will ask for your address and just send you a voucher because they don't know any better, and the support agent is more than likely following protocol.

If you are doing more advanced stuff such as electronics. You are gonna need a lot of research put into it. You will need serial numbers, Model numbers, and the ability to be convincing and make the agent trust you.

Tip for when you are doing electronics etc... Always keep your story straight, keep it written down next to you and read off of it when you call, because 1 slip up could bring in serious consequences, for the electronics that is. For household stuff if you slip up just hang up or don't respond to your email.

Tips:
- Don't use your real address for electronics. Easy stuff like house-hold items and food tends to be fine as long as you don't overdo it.
- Never act angry when talking to the rep. It won't get you anywhere and will most likely increase your odds of failing. However, do try to show a bit of emotion, especially if you are on the phone. Try and change the tone of your voice or the way your word your sentences to show that you are quite upset.
- Remember the key rule of Social Engineering. You are lying. Never feel sympathy for anyone you speak or talk to, because if you do, it could ruin the whole method/attempt and could be rather bad for you. If you aren't prepared to accept that you are lying to people and to have 0 sympathy for them, then Social Engineering probably isn't for you. :)

I hope this helped out a little bit.
 

hobbs

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Hypershift said:
Hey @HOBBS
When Social Engineering, I generally find it's best to make up my own methods. However, it depends what sort of stuff you are doing.
If you are doing very basic stuff such as; Fast Food, General House-Hold Items, etc... Then there is pretty much 1 method that always works.

Method:
1. Do research on the product you are doing. Look for common faults online it usually has.
2. Email/Phone the company and complain that the fault happened to you.
3. Most of the time they will ask for your address and just send you a voucher because they don't know any better, and the support agent is more than likely following protocol.

If you are doing more advanced stuff such as electronics. You are gonna need a lot of research put into it. You will need serial numbers, Model numbers, and the ability to be convincing and make the agent trust you.

Tip for when you are doing electronics etc... Always keep your story straight, keep it written down next to you and read off of it when you call, because 1 slip up could bring in serious consequences, for the electronics that is. For household stuff if you slip up just hang up or don't respond to your email.

Tips:
- Don't use your real address for electronics. Easy stuff like house-hold items and food tends to be fine as long as you don't overdo it.
- Never act angry when talking to the rep. It won't get you anywhere and will most likely increase your odds of failing. However, do try to show a bit of emotion, especially if you are on the phone. Try and change the tone of your voice or the way your word your sentences to show that you are quite upset.
- Remember the key rule of Social Engineering. You are lying. Never feel sympathy for anyone you speak or talk to, because if you do, it could ruin the whole method/attempt and could be rather bad for you. If you aren't prepared to accept that you are lying to people and to have 0 sympathy for them, then Social Engineering probably isn't for you. :)

I hope this helped out a little bit.
Nice, thankyou for the tips I will put them to use :)
 

JfN

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@Hypershift has a good point about making his own methods. More to this is just be creative and improvise as much as you can... Say whatever the fuck you think sounds legit and stick with it.

Also, don't go full retard. I saw a post on another forum asking if he could tell Amazon he "found blood all over the inside of the box" ...the fuck?

Here I'll be posting a whole log of Social Engineering I'm gonna be doing for people to learn from. You will find that most of these are unique and I wont use the same method more than a few times:
http://primeforums.net/showthread.php?tid=129638

Methods that wont raise much suspicion are generally to do with foods (early expiration, odd taste, etc) like @Hypershift said. No way to really prove what you say isn't true.
 

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JfN said:
@Hypershift has a good point about making his own methods. More to this is just be creative and improvise as much as you can... Say whatever the fuck you think sounds legit and stick with it.

Also, don't go full retard. I saw a post on another forum asking if he could tell Amazon he "found blood all over the inside of the box" ...the fuck?

Here I'll be posting a whole log of Social Engineering I'm gonna be doing for people to learn from. You will find that most of these are unique and I wont use the same method more than a few times:
http://primeforums.net/showthread.php?tid=129638

Methods that wont raise much suspicion are generally to do with foods (early expiration, odd taste, etc) like @Hypershift said. No way to really prove what you say isn't true.
what about dvds like scratched or something
 

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ah true, foods different I guess. What else do you think could work?
Like I said, the easiest stuff are when there's no way to actually prove you're bullshitting.

I'll be posting examples in the next few days, hopefully.
 
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1) Say that the delivery man's van set fire just after you signed for the parcel you are receiving, so your parcel set fire and sadly now it's burnt to ashes, so you can't return it.

2) Profit
 

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I once bought 40 of CDs off eBay (all from different buyers) and told each buyer the CD came damaged. 36 of the buyers gave me a refund without asking for any proof or evidence!
 

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ayylmao said:
1) Say that the delivery man's van set fire just after you signed for the parcel you are receiving, so your parcel set fire and sadly now it's burnt to ashes, so you can't return it.

2) Profit
You forgot 1.5) ?????
 
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I once bought 40 of CDs off eBay (all from different buyers) and told each buyer the CD came damaged. 36 of the buyers gave me a refund without asking for any proof or evidence!
That's just scamming not social engineering apparently
 

JfN

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ayylmao said:
That's just scamming not social engineering apparently
The way I would differentiate is;

If it's a company, it's social engineering and no morals are involved because they exploit thousands of people a day.

If it's a person, it depends on a whole bunch of factors.
 

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